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Screenlink: The Editor, a Composer's Friend or Foe?

SCGNZ and DEGNZ present “The Editor, a Composer’s Friend or Foe?”

A special event that looks at the importance of communication and teamwork between an Editor and a Film Composer… Will they be friends or foes by the end of the mix?

Join us for a discussion between acclaimed New Zealand editors Annie Collins (One Thousand Ropes, The Great Maiden’s Blush, Consent: The Louise Nicholas Story) and Jonno Woodford-Robinson (Mortal Engines, Pork Pie, What We Do In the Shadows), chaired by Andrew Hagen from the Screen Composers Guild. There will be time for audience questions from Facebook in this sure-to-be interesting evening, so come join us live and see how you can avoid falling onto the wrong side of the (musical) tracks.

As part of the Q&A, they’ll be discussing some film clips, provided by the editors. These won’t be played during the session. We suggest watching the clips at 5pm, before the beginning of the live event at 5:30pm. Links to these clips will be made available on this post, the day before the event.

WHEN:  Thu 14 May, 5:30pm
WHERE: Directors and Editors Guild of New Zealand Facebook page. If you don’t have a Facebook account, please refer to the information further down on how to watch the live-stream.

This event is presented by the Directors & Editors Guild of NZ and the Screen Composers Guild of NZ as part of the Screenlink series.

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Screenlink: The Editor, a Composer's Friend or Foe?

A special event presented by SCGNZ and DEGNZ that looks at the importance of communication and teamwork between an Editor and a Film Composer… Will they be friends or foes by the end of the mix?Andrew Hagen from the Screen Composers Guild chairs this discussion with acclaimed NZ editors Annie Collins (One Thousand Ropes, Consent: The Louise Nicholas Story) and Jonno Woodford-Robinson (Mortal Engines, What We Do In the Shadows). With time for audience Qs, come join us live to find out how you can avoid falling onto the wrong side of the (musical) tracks.🎬🎧 Watch the discussion clips before the start of the live event. These will be provided at: https://www.degnz.co.nz/screenlink-the-editor-a-composers-friend-or-foe-wellington/

Posted by Directors and Editors Guild of New Zealand on Wednesday, 13 May 2020

Discussion Clips

Watch these before the event. Clip length in brackets.

  1. Clips from Annie Collins [15:12]
  2. 3 Mile Limit Excerpt [2:50]
  3. The Warrior’s Way Excerpt [1:27]

Jonno’s composer recommendations

Sharing Jonno’s list from the Q&A:

  • Graeme Revell (Dafur Now, The Negotiator)
  • Calexico
  • Johan Soderqvist (Let the Right One In)
  • Agnes Obel – a pianist
  • Yann Tiersen (Amelie)
  • Penguin Cafe & Penguin Cafe Orchestra
  • Lisa Gerrard (The Insider)
  • Carter Burwell (Fargo, Burn After Reading)
  • Danny Elfman (Men in Black)
  • James Newton Howard (6the sense, Unbreakable, King Kong)
  • Henrik Górecki (Fearless)

For Non-Facebook Users

Follow these steps to watch the live-stream:

  1. Tune in at this link on Facebook.
  2. Click to play the live video once the broadcast has started.

You do not need to create a Facebook account to watch. Simply ignore any Facebook prompts to Log In / Create New Account, or click ‘Not Now’ if the option appears. Prompts will look like so:

Log in prompt e.g.

Notes:

  • Non-Facebook users can watch the live-stream without an account, but won’t be able to ask questions/comment.
  • Firefox may not support Facebook Live. We recommend using Safari or Chrome.
Screenlink: Inside the Engine of Mortal Engines

Join 1st Assistant Editor/VFX Editor Dan Best for the rare chance to have an informal look inside the engine room of a multi million dollar VFX heavy feature. Dan will share on handling the logistics involved, the big editorial team required, media walkabout, the skills, the deadlines. The highs and lows of big projects, and surviving a long, long timeframe.

For this Screenlink, DEGNZ will be partnering with our friends at WIFT. Morning tea will be served on arrival. Talk starts at 11am.

WHEN:  Sat 23 November, 10:30AM – 12:30PM
WHERE:  Department of Post, 19 Newton Road, Grey Lynn, Auckland 1010

RSVP Essential

This free event is open to DEGNZ and WIFT members only as spaces are limited.

DEGNZ members, RSVP to tema@degnz.co.nz (priority will be given to editors; directors are welcome to join our waitlist).

WIFT members, RSVP to office@wiftnz.org.nz.

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Just over four years ago a group of senior editors were sitting around on a Sunday afternoon in Auckland lamenting the fact that standards just weren’t like they used to be. They questioned each other as to why that was. The answer they came up with was that in the old days, i.e. the days of film, assistant editors worked in the cutting room like apprentices, learning their craft under the tutelage of the cutting editor.
In this way they were learning the technical aspects of their work and:

  • observing the editor at work,
  • getting the chance to cut on the project and have their work critiqued by the editor,
  • and being part of the conversations between the editor and the director, producer, funding body, broadcaster, etc.

All the while they were on the project for essentially the full length of the edit.

With the advent of digital editing, the role of the assistant editor quickly morphed into dealing much more with the technical preparation of material for editing, often on opposite shifts from the editor. This was usually done in a cost-saving exercise by the producer so that one edit setup could be used across 24 hours, rather than having to hire two to work in parallel. Additionally, the assistant editor’s time working on the project was reduced, because producers could see that once the technical work was finished there was a way to further lower costs.

All this meant that the chance to observe, cut and receive critique was often curtailed unless the editor made a considered effort to ensure their assistant got the opportunities. For the editor it meant working unsupported through post, dealing with the increased digital complexities of an edit on top of doing their job.

The impact this had became obvious when senior editors were being brought onto projects to ‘fix’ them because less experienced editors were being held responsible for not delivering a satisfactory cut.

At the same time, the technical nature of the work was becoming more complex and assistant editors were often required to figure it all out by themselves without significant guidance from the editor who was too busy doing what they were hired to do.

With the financial support of the NZ Film Commission, DEGNZ began to offer Assistant Editor Workshops in late 2018 to seek to formalise and standardise the technical aspects of the assistant editor’s role in a two-level training programme, which also recognises the Technical Assistant Editor as a career path in itself.

DEGNZ, again with NZFC support, introduced Feature Film Editing Attachments, so that junior editors seeking to work in features could get back into the room with the editor for the creative aspects they are often missing out on.

A third issue arising from digital editing and productions is digital workflow. Again, many are being left to figure it out for themselves with the result that a digital mess is being delivered to professional post production houses who have to waste precious time and resources sorting it out. This of course costs money that could be used to better effect on the creative side of post-production.

DEGNZ approached the Screen Production and Development Association (SPADA) with the issue. As a result, inaugural Post Production Workflow Workshops will be run by SPADA with DEGNZ in Auckland and Wellington next week, primarily targeted at producers who are the ones most likely to suffer when post doesn’t go well.

A bigger picture issue that DEGNZ is currently working on with a number of post houses nationally is to develop Best Practice Standards for post-production. We hope that the initiatives we have put in place and others we want to introduce over time will deliver greater creative outcomes and make the technical side more efficient and cost effective for everyone.

Tui Ruwhiu
Executive Director

SPADA Post Workflow Worshops

SPADA, in association with DEGNZ, presents a day-long workshop introducing the concepts and processes of the post-production workflow.

Delivered by Editor Annie Collins and Producer Catherine Fitzgerald, this workshop will give an overview of the entire post-production process including budgeting, what needs to be covered in the technical workflow, when it’s covered, and with whom, VFX, post-sound, and scheduling from commencement of post-production through to output of deliverables.

Participants will gain an understanding of the different roles and people involved, and an awareness of how to manage and schedule a professional post-production workflow.

This workshop is ideal for emerging filmmakers, aimed at producers and directors with a project or two under their belt who are looking to progress their post-production knowledge and practices. Editors are also welcome to attend, and if you know a producer or director who could benefit, give them a nudge!

Workshop Details

Wellington
Mon 16 September, 10am – 4:30pm
Random Group, 43 Hanson Street, Mount Cook, Wellington

Wellington – Book Now

Auckland
Tue 17 September, 10am – 4:30pm
Department of Post, 19 Newton Road, Grey Lynn, Auckland

Auckland – Book Now

Price:
SPADA / DEGNZ members – $45 + GST
Non-members – $85 + GST
(Tea, coffee and lunch provided)

Contact comms@spada.co.nz if you have any questions.

Inside Editing Mortal Engines

Join Editor Jonno Woodford-Robinson and 1st Assistant Editor Dan Best for the rare chance to have an informal look inside the engine room of a multi million dollar VFX heavy feature. Jonno and Dan will be chatting with Annie Collins over coffee and croissants about handling the logistics involved, the big editorial team required, media walkabout, the skills, the deadlines. The highs and lows of big projects, and surviving a long, long timeframe.

WHEN:  Sat 4 May, 11AM – 12:30PM
WHERE:  Random Group – The Hub, 43 Hanson Street, Mt Cook, Wellington

RSVP Essential

This free event is open to DEGNZ members only and spaces are limited. Email tema@degnz.co.nz by Thursday 2 May to RSVP.